1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,080 On this episode of Ghost Hunters, 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,240 TAPS arrives at an island fortress, 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,040 the site of one of the country's largest civil war prisons. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,720 Wow, look at that place, dude. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Guys, check it out. 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,160 Can a new investigator keep it together 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,600 when the spirits come knocking? 8 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,960 Can you make a noise if you're here? 9 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Did you hear knocking? 10 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,080 Yeah, I did. 11 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,960 Then Chris is shocked by something unexpected. 12 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,880 I feel like I'm being set up. What's going on? 13 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,880 And when Jason and Grant turn up the heat... 14 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Do you know what these tools are for? 15 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Oh, f***. 16 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Woo! 17 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,960 While angry spirits try to run them off the island... 18 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Did you see that? 19 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,360 That was... 20 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,680 What the hell was that? 21 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Did you see that? 22 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Yeah. 23 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,400 No way! 24 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,520 That's coming over there, right? 25 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Yeah. 26 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Come on. 27 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,080 It's Chris. 28 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Hello. 29 00:00:59,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Hey, guys. 30 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:00,640 What's up, Chris? 31 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,280 Actually, I got a great location for you guys to check out. 32 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Okay. 33 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,960 It's called Fort Delaware. 34 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:06,960 It's on Peapatch Island in Delaware. 35 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:08,240 Well, keep talking. Tell me about it. 36 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,480 They've reported activity in the tunnels, 37 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,680 in the officers' quarters, 38 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,960 just a little bit of everything. 39 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:13,440 Okay. 40 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,280 It's only accessible by boat. 41 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,080 What? Really? 42 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Yeah. 43 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,320 Sounds a little crazy, but it is on an island. 44 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:19,200 Okay. All right. 45 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Well, I'll tell you what. 46 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,800 I'm going to talk to Jay about it. 47 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,680 We just got to finish up here. 48 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,480 Okay. 49 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Bye. 50 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,480 Dude, you're not going to believe this. 51 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:24,800 What? 52 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Fort Delaware. 53 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,200 The only way to get there is by boat. 54 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,680 Oh, wow. 55 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Yeah. So, it should be neat. 56 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,080 So, we got to finish up and get over there. 57 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,040 Hey, she's already heating up. 58 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,840 All right. Let's do this. 59 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,680 I'm really looking forward to the investigation 60 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,640 of Fort Delaware. 61 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,760 So many soldiers were there. 62 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,440 There were so many deaths there. 63 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,600 The possibility of paranormal activity is huge. 64 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Last time we did a fort, it was amazing. 65 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,200 I know. I can't wait. 66 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,960 This place was built in the 1800s, Chris? 67 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Yeah, mid-1800s. 68 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,160 And it was originally built as artillery defense for unions. 69 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Eventually, though, they turned it into a POW camp, 70 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,200 and it held over 33,000 people. 71 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Holy crap. 72 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,800 That's nuts. 73 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 What can we expect to see up there as far as activity? 74 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 As far as activity, there's three apparitions 75 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,800 that they speak of. 76 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,640 A cleaning woman, a cook, and a Confederate soldier. 77 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:17,440 That's very cool. 78 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Now, how many people die here? 79 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Well, going through the records, 80 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,440 they estimate that about 2,500 people died at the fort. 81 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Hey, Stevie. 82 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Hey, Jake. 83 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Chris was just telling us at one point 84 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,720 they had 33,000 prisoners and 2,500 deaths, man. 85 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,200 I've never heard of a prison that holds that many people. 86 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Just so you all know, it's only accessible by water. 87 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,200 Also, Mark is supposed to be meeting us there. 88 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,800 The Hunt for the Hunter. 89 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Oh, that's awesome. 90 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Cool. 91 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,640 It would be nice to see him again. 92 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,360 Mark Facetti, our choice in the Hunt for the Hunter search, 93 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,280 lives nearby, and we felt it would be a great case 94 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,440 for him to join us on, so he's going to meet us there. 95 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Hey, one more tidbit of information, 96 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 everybody, we're the first team to get in there 97 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,480 and investigate this place. 98 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Wow. 99 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,000 That's cool. 100 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Wow, that's awesome. 101 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Yeah. 102 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,080 All right, guys. 103 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,920 We've got to go down here and catch the boat. 104 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:04,560 Sweet. 105 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,280 I love boats. 106 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Mark, what's going on, man? 107 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:08,560 How you been, all right? 108 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Hey, man. 109 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,280 How about you? 110 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Hey, man. 111 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,160 It's good to see you. 112 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:10,560 How are you? 113 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,120 How are you? 114 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,080 So you ready for this, man? 115 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,640 I'm ready. 116 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:13,760 Oh, happy to have you on board, man. 117 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,640 We're going to have a good time. 118 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:15,360 So I get to be here. 119 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,400 All right, well, let's grab the equipment. 120 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Let's keep going. 121 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Look at that place, dude. 122 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Guys, check it out. 123 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Wow. 124 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Hey, dude. 125 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,760 Folks, good to see you. 126 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Hey, how are you? 127 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Lee Jennings. 128 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Jason. 129 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:35,840 What's up? 130 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Grant. 131 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,040 How are you doing? 132 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Welcome to Fort Delaware. 133 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Thanks for having us. 134 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,000 You want to give us a tour around? 135 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Absolutely. 136 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,840 We're ready to go right now. 137 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Many, many people are interested in the answer 138 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,720 to this question. 139 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Is Fort Delaware haunted? 140 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,720 For a historian, it's impossible to answer 141 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,000 this particular question. 142 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 So we hope the taps can answer it for us. 143 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,560 So what's some of the history here? 144 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Well, we got started in 1848. 145 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,880 It took 20 years to build the place. 146 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Its big claim to fame was that during the Civil War, 147 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,880 it was a prisoner of war facility. 148 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,880 There were over 33,000 Confederates here. 149 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,680 When they got here and made it the second biggest city 150 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,960 in the state of Delaware. 151 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,880 So we hear there's a lot of paranormal activity here. 152 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Absolutely. 153 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,520 We've had quite a few reports from visitors, 154 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,560 people who work here. 155 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Actually, you're standing in one of the sites, right, 156 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:18,160 this minute. 157 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 What will happen here? 158 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,360 Well, you see these stairs behind you? 159 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,160 Yeah. 160 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,160 You just get really slick when they're wet. 161 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,600 Private Stefano was upstairs, called for the guard, 162 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,520 ran down the stairs, slipped, rolled down the stairs, 163 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,960 broke his neck, and crushed his skull right here. 164 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,480 So he died right here where I'm standing? 165 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Right where you're standing. 166 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,160 Wow. 167 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,960 So when we started to hear, thump, thump, thump. 168 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,160 Oh, so that's one of the reports. 169 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,280 We had a suspicion that it might be Private Stefano. 170 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:46,960 I guess we got to be careful in the steps, I think. 171 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,160 Yeah, be real careful about that. 172 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,520 But I think we need to go on up now 173 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 because one of the other sightings we have is right upstairs. 174 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,120 This is where the Relief Guard congregated. 175 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,920 But in our era, what we had was our dressing rooms 176 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,440 up here for interpreters. 177 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Because Fort Della were such an important historical site, 178 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,840 they often host reenactments to actually show visitors 179 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,640 what it was like when the fort was open during the Civil War. 180 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,240 We had the new interpreter. 181 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,240 He was a Marine just back from Desert Storm. 182 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,840 He's in dressing, and he sees a perfectly dressed Confederate 183 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:17,040 walking this way. 184 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,480 He figures it's a real war. 185 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,080 He figures it's a reenactor. 186 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Turns around to say hello, and there's nobody there. 187 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,920 That's the mess hall. 188 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,080 A hundred people will take their meals here. 189 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,480 It's a room that we use pretty frequently now 190 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,880 because we've restored it to its original form and function. 191 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,160 So a lot of people are in here. 192 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,720 We've had people report to us that what they're seeing 193 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,160 is a charwoman or cleaning woman coming out of here 194 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,440 and going over to where there was a mantle on the wall 195 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,680 and she dusts the mantle, cleans it up, and turns around 196 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,040 and comes in here. 197 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,640 Now, she doesn't really have a whole lot of place to go here. 198 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,320 Did this used to open up to something else? 199 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Well, yeah, a long time ago that went into the hallway 200 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,000 for the stairs next door here, but then sealed up 201 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,440 for more than 60 years. 202 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,160 The apparition of the cleaning lady seen in the mess hall 203 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,600 definitely falls under what we believe to be a residual type on. 204 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,760 She walks through a door and she cleans off a mantle 205 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,360 that doesn't even exist anymore, 206 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,440 and then disappears as quickly as she showed up. 207 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,360 We're going to go into the officer's kitchen. 208 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,440 My wife had a group of kids in here working 209 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,200 whether cutting up meat and vegetables, 210 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,920 and my wife looked up and noticed a woman walks over 211 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,760 to the pot over the fire, picks the lid off, looks inside, 212 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,920 looks around, smiles, nods, and then turns around 213 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,000 and walks right back out there. 214 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,720 Open the door? 215 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Nope, right through. 216 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,520 But she was able to lift the pot? 217 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Lift the pot and stir. 218 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,360 The female apparition that's seen in the kitchen 219 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,520 is a good example of an intelligent haunting. 220 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,160 She came into the room, recognized the people there, 221 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,480 interacted with the pot and the people, 222 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,920 and then turned around and disappeared. 223 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,440 That's the way intelligent hauntings are. 224 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,880 There's intelligence behind them. 225 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Not too long ago, I was volunteering here for Delaware. 226 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,720 I dressed up as a female Russian, 227 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,920 well, I didn't have a belt, 228 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,160 so I went into the kitchen to find some rope. 229 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Found the rope laying on the table, 230 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,840 and I started cutting it with a knife. 231 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,760 And suddenly the door slammed shut, 232 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 and here this woman saying that's not very nice. 233 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,720 And I wanted to pull the door open and it wouldn't move. 234 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,360 So when I put my foot up on the side of the door, 235 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,320 I tried to pull it open. 236 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,040 And after a few times it finally came open, 237 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,240 and I landed on the table. 238 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,120 I was scared. 239 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Nothing like this would ever happen to me before. 240 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,280 All right, so where to now? 241 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 We're going to go up to the officer's sleeping course. 242 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Geez, somebody locked up. 243 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,800 If you got to live somewhere away from home, 244 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,840 this isn't too bad, is it? 245 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,800 No, not at all. 246 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,320 But this is one of the rooms 247 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,800 that the most recent activity took place in. 248 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Really? What was that? 249 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,120 We had a gal who was sitting over there by that window. 250 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,040 There's an electrified oil lamp there. 251 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,280 What I got from her was somebody threw a lamp 252 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,240 at me. 253 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,240 I was sitting there for maybe five minutes 254 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,240 when all of a sudden I heard a crash right next to me. 255 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,440 And all of a sudden there's glass everywhere. 256 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,960 It really scared me. 257 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,920 So I think we're pretty well wrapped up tonight, guys. 258 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,600 I'm going to turn the fort over to you. 259 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,840 I want to give you one warning before I go away. 260 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 You go over here in the more modern 1896 section. 261 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Be careful. Good luck. 262 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,360 And have a great night out here. 263 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,400 I hope it all works out. 264 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Thanks, man. Thanks very much. 265 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Appreciate it. Thanks, Lee. 266 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Okay, Shannon. Have a good night. Take care. 267 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Fort Delaware is incredible. 268 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,760 It's the kind of case we enjoy because you have both residual 269 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 and intelligent hauntings in one shot. 270 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Both reports are amazing, 271 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,840 and to have them both in one shot makes this place really cool. 272 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,200 It's too up and rolling. 273 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,480 It's not a bad shot, either. 274 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,880 We just need to try to cover as much of the area as possible. 275 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Yes, the places that have had activity, 276 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 but also the places that nobody really goes to, 277 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,400 and see what happens. 278 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,680 So we need a camera right here go all the way down the hall. 279 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,960 One thing that I'm really excited about is thousands of people die here. 280 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,480 You can just imagine the trauma, the turmoil that can lend 281 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,080 to possible paranormal activity. 282 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 So tonight I am paired up to start off with Kristen. 283 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,360 My expectations are really high. 284 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,120 I hope to see something, catch something. 285 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,960 First off, though, good job to everybody. 286 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,880 I mean, the tech team really put it together. 287 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Guys, if you like these angles, 288 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,200 I'll quickly go through them with you. 289 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Camera one, a grand setup. 290 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,560 That's actually the courtyard. 291 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,960 Camera two is the hallway, that main hallway, 292 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,040 where they see the apparitions walking back and forth. 293 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Three is the mess hall, 294 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,040 and we have the doorway that she's seen coming in, 295 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,400 and the mantle there. 296 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Camera four is, of course, the bedroom 297 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,400 that's connected to the officers' quarters. 298 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,280 And guys, if you notice, camera angle five there is the kitchen, 299 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,280 and in the corner is where they see that woman, 300 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,040 you know, playing with the pots and whatever she does. 301 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Yeah, I think it's all good. 302 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,600 We got a lot of ground to cover tonight. 303 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Let's get the lights out. 304 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Okay. 305 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,000 All right, good guys. 306 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Okay. 307 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Jay and I investigated the officer's bedroom 308 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,120 when it was reported that a lamp got thrown at a woman. 309 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,400 I'm really thinking that she just... 310 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Got to wrap her on her foot? 311 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Or just hit it because I think it didn't have to be wrapped around. 312 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,960 If your foot caught it, of course, 313 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,880 you yank something off by its core, 314 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,760 it's gonna come flying at you. 315 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:08,560 Absolutely. 316 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,720 I 100% agree with you. 317 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,760 And she's up here by herself. 318 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,440 I'm sure it would have smoked her. 319 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Hearing all the ghost stories here, 320 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,400 it's already gonna scare you. 321 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 I think that as she went to set down, 322 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,960 her foot just caught the cord and pulled the lamp at her. 323 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,160 It makes a lot of sense, 324 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,000 and I think that's what really happened. 325 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 But while we're up there, we figured we'd give it a shot anyway. 326 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Here we go. 327 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Hey, my name's Jason. 328 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,080 This is Grant. 329 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Hello. 330 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,680 We're just here to talk, 331 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:42,880 and you're able to communicate back and forth with us 332 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,080 by these devices we have on these tables 333 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 that have the green lights on them. 334 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,280 The K2 meter picks up magnetic fields and frequencies, 335 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,160 and a lot of the theory is that you're able to make contact 336 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,840 with spirits by using this device. 337 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,880 We're just gonna sit here. 338 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,240 No harm will come to you. 339 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040 If you'd like to talk to us, we greatly appreciate you. 340 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Oh. 341 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Look at that. 342 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Look at that. 343 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:05,920 There it goes. 344 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,760 If that was you, can you do it again? 345 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Hello. 346 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Hi, this is Jason. 347 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,720 This is Grant. 348 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Hello. 349 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Grant and I were in the officer's bedroom, 350 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,760 where a lamp reportedly had jumped off a piece of furniture 351 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,640 and crashed to the floor, 352 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 so we decided we're gonna use the K2 and try to make contact. 353 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,320 If you'd like to talk to us, we greatly appreciate you. 354 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Oh. 355 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Look at that. 356 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Look at that. 357 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,440 There it goes. 358 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,120 If that was you, can you do it again? 359 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Okay. 360 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,440 Trying to figure this out? 361 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,320 So can you do it one more time for us? 362 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Okay, I know we keep asking you to do the same thing 363 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,520 over and over again, 364 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,560 but the more you do it, the better it is. 365 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:01,920 How about this? 366 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 I'll count to three, and at that point, 367 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,240 you do whatever you did again. 368 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,200 All right, so one, 369 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:10,800 two, 370 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,280 three. 371 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Damn it. 372 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,520 All right, well, Grant and I are gonna have to leave. 373 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,880 You haven't done anything to impress us 374 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,440 or to let us know that it's definitely you. 375 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,080 We got a few responses on the K2, 376 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,680 but it seemed like the kind of response 377 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,240 that we were picking up something very not paranormal. 378 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,440 It was a little coincidental, 379 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,760 but not spot on. 380 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,120 I like hallways. 381 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Do you? 382 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Because they're long, controlled, 383 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,920 point of view, you know what I mean? 384 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Yeah. 385 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Cover a lot of space in one, one stair. 386 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,600 One swoop. 387 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Yep. 388 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,640 You look down a long, long, big tunnel 389 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 and see if anything crosses the ambient light. 390 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,440 That's what I do. 391 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,240 I like to stare. 392 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Is there anyone in here tonight? 393 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Can you please do something to let us know that you're here? 394 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,200 Try real hard for us, please. 395 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:16,560 Shh. 396 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,880 I thought I heard something. 397 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Something like a footstep. 398 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,560 We just want to communicate with you. 399 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 If you're really trying to communicate, 400 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,480 you really need to try harder. 401 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,360 You need to get our attention. 402 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Maybe throw a rock. 403 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:39,440 That way. 404 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Joe asked, can you please throw an object? 405 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,160 A little to behold, five seconds later, 406 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,160 we hear something basically get thrown. 407 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,680 Let's down here more. 408 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Sounded like somebody threw a rock, 409 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,600 so we went to the other rooms trying to get some responses. 410 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Could you throw something again, please? 411 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,440 I'm going to pick a rock up and throw it up. 412 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,080 I'm going to pick a rock up and throw it down the hallway 413 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,040 directly in front of me. 414 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:12,720 Could you throw one back? 415 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:17,680 Come on, do it. 416 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,400 We saw a lot of the stalactites that were just hanging from the ceilings. 417 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,320 See, it didn't sound like that, though. 418 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:28,560 No. 419 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,200 They're just too light and didn't make the same noise that we heard, 420 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,320 so we couldn't debunk it. 421 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,040 It was pretty weird. 422 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Kristen and Mark, second floor bedroom, Fort Delaware. 423 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,800 This is where the lamp got thrown at somebody. 424 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Is there anyone here with us tonight? 425 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Would anybody like to tell us your name? 426 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Were you a soldier here? 427 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Can you tell us how old you are? 428 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Could you tap on something? 429 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,680 What the hell is that? 430 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,280 What do you got? 431 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Did you hear knocking? 432 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,160 Yeah, I did. 433 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,840 The window is loose. 434 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Maybe. 435 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Yeah, probably the way I think I'm going to push. 436 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Jane Gray, Fort Delaware in the tunnels. 437 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,280 I say it's creepy as crap in here. 438 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Anybody in here? 439 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,080 At least it's a whole other field at night, man. 440 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Yeah, it really does. 441 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Everyone else was hitting the hot spots tonight, 442 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,160 and Jane and I wanted to really check out the tunnels, 443 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,760 just kind of explore. 444 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,840 And we're always of the philosophy that, 445 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,480 hey, sometimes it's not where you expect it to be. 446 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,920 So you might as well cover the whole place. 447 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Look at this. 448 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Okay, we're following a tunnel on the second floor. 449 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,880 It seems to go around the entire fort. 450 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Hey, if there's anybody in here, my name's Jason. 451 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,720 This is Grant. 452 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Just looking to say hi and maybe talk a little bit. 453 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,240 Are you a soldier stationed at the fort? 454 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Yeah, it's a voice message. 455 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Some crazy sounds. 456 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Can you say anything for us? 457 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,200 We started hearing right away somebody walking and some sounds, 458 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,640 and it was very clear and lasted for probably about 10 seconds, at least. 459 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,360 You're freaking lost just walking through this voice. 460 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:54,880 It's cool. 461 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Did you hear that? 462 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Is it a freaking growl? 463 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,960 I thought it sounded more like a chuckle. 464 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,880 But no. 465 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,400 A couple of times we were getting strange sounds, voices just calling 466 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,720 from down at the other end of the tunnel to things that either sounded like a giggle 467 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,520 or a growl. 468 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,040 We're really not sure at this time. 469 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,640 What is that right there? 470 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,280 See? 471 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Yeah, yeah. 472 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,600 You gotta figure out what that is. 473 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,680 It just went around the corner. 474 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,240 That corner is nowhere to go around the corner. 475 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Did you use that? 476 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Yeah. 477 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:34,800 What is that? 478 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,640 We're going back for a second. 479 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,120 Away. 480 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,800 No way. 481 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,560 The heck? 482 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,520 I have no idea. 483 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,600 Did you use that? 484 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,400 Yeah. 485 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:54,960 What is that? 486 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,040 We're going back for a second. 487 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Jay and I continued to investigate the tunnel and as we were walking through there with a 488 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,880 thermal imaging camera, Jay thought he had seen something out of the corner of his eye. 489 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,160 Away. 490 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,920 No way. 491 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,600 The heck? 492 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,560 I have no idea. 493 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:16,240 It looked like there was a person at the end of the hallway that walked from the right 494 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,120 to the left, turned around and walked back over. 495 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Did you see this? 496 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,320 I saw a red thing on the side of the camera, but that's not even... 497 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,000 There's gotta be somebody down here. 498 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,680 So I want to see if we can catch somebody. 499 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Yeah, go look. 500 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:34,720 Of course, as soon as you realize that, maybe there actually is a living person in here. 501 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,920 We took off after it. 502 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 I got nothing on this long hallway, man. 503 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,680 That's the only place something could have gone. 504 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,520 I got Mad K2 readings about 50 feet back. 505 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,680 You want to play chase? 506 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,640 We can play chase. 507 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,120 That's fine. 508 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,120 Hello? 509 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Anybody up here? 510 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,760 No, I moved as fast as I could and we saw no signs of anybody. 511 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Not even a heat signature on the floor. 512 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Nothing. 513 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,120 I'm just going to go get a tripod. 514 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,440 So we decided that we'd set up the thermal imaging camera on a tripod and film that. 515 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,160 That's good, huh? 516 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Yeah, that's a perfect shot. 517 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,000 All right, cool. 518 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,840 Okay. 519 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,600 This is Kristen Jo in the mess hall, Fort Delaware. 520 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Okay. 521 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,080 This is Kristen Jo in the mess hall, Fort Delaware. 522 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:48,160 The report is they see a female apparition walk in and walk over the fireplace where she 523 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,360 dusts off the mantle and walks back through the closed door. 524 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,880 There's no way I'm messed by the door. 525 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,360 There isn't? 526 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:55,840 No. 527 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,160 The reports that they have of this room seem more residual than anything else 528 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,040 and it's not just going to come out on command. 529 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,560 It's just going to happen when it happens. 530 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Oh, gross. 531 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,240 But at the same rate, we have to go into the room and we have to do EVP. 532 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,640 We have to do EMF or whatever just in case that there is something else here. 533 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Oh, what's up? 534 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,040 I just went to 1.5. 535 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,160 Are you serious? 536 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,800 I picked it up and as soon as I picked it up, it went to 1.5 and it dropped. 537 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,000 There's different theories with EMFs. 538 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Some of them are that they help manifest paranormal activity. 539 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:44,880 There's something there that can actually draw the energy from those EMFs to make things happen. 540 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,880 I say we do some EVP. 541 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,880 If there's anybody here that would like to speak with us, this is my friend Jo and my name's Chris. 542 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,880 We came a long way to meet you. 543 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Do you work here as a cleaning lady or a cook? 544 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Besides me and my friend, how many people are here? 545 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Please, there's no need to be afraid. 546 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,760 The equipment that we have will not harm you. 547 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,760 It's just here so that we could either hear or see you. 548 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Is this somewhere you were stationed? 549 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,640 Is this somewhere you were stationed? 550 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,640 We really didn't have too much happen, unfortunately. 551 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,640 Definitely not let down, but I am looking forward to trying to investigate a different area of the fort. 552 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,640 What's in those other two doors? 553 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640 I don't know. Let's check it out. 554 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Steve and Dave Tango tunnels. 555 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,640 Is this room here? 556 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,640 Yeah. 557 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,640 People right in here. 558 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,640 What? 559 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,640 For a good time called Mrs. Tango. 560 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,640 Oh, I love that. 561 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,640 You love that. 562 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,640 Well, look, we're writing. 563 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,640 I'm looking over here. 564 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,640 What? Really? They're writing here? 565 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,640 We're in big time. 566 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,640 What's that in your arm? 567 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,640 What is this? 568 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,640 Oh, it's just spider spray. 569 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,640 Spiders are one of the most feared pests around. 570 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,640 See that? I'm not alone, man. 571 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,640 You know, unfortunately, I have a lot of phobias. 572 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:52,640 I'm afraid of a lot of things, from spiders to flying, airplanes, heights, just about anything you'd think of. 573 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Let's go this way. 574 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,640 Howie? 575 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,640 One what these rail systems are used for. 576 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520 You see that? 577 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Yeah. 578 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,520 What? Where? Show me. 579 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,520 It's not the biggest I've seen, but it's waiting. 580 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520 It probably knows. 581 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 I love it. 582 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,520 He smells your fear. 583 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520 What? 584 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Oh, I hate those. 585 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520 That was right in my face. 586 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520 I honestly can't look at him for more than a second. 587 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,520 If my eye fixes on it, for more than a second, I feel like it's on me and I can't take it. 588 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,400 He deserves a little something. 589 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,400 You're going to mess with it. Why are you going to mess with it? 590 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,400 I'll just let you go in there. 591 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,400 I don't know. 592 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,400 Let's get out of here, Tango. 593 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,400 You've been in here long enough. 594 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,400 Let's go investigate somewhere. 595 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,400 Jane Grant, heading into Officer's Kitchen area. 596 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,400 Now this is where the lady comes out of that door. 597 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,280 There's the soup and then walks through the door without opening it. 598 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Janine's wife actually tried to talk to her and she didn't respond. 599 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,280 That is correct. 600 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,280 Do you want to try and draw her out? 601 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Yeah. 602 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Hey, if there's anyone in here, my name is Jason, this is Grant. 603 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,280 We're just here trying to communicate. 604 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,160 All you got to do is wave your hand in front of one of these green lights. 605 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,160 Even if you just move a door, just do something. 606 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,160 I'm going to knock. Can you knock back? 607 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,160 Well, as we were sitting in the kitchen, we had the K2 set up. 608 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,160 We were trying to really make some contact and we were doing everything we could. 609 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,160 And nothing was happening. 610 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040 We heard that you like to help cook. 611 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,040 It's a beautiful kitchen. 612 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 I'd love to cook in this kitchen. 613 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040 I like to cook. 614 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Jane Joyce cooking. 615 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Then when we switched the conversation to cooking, the whole atmosphere in the place changed. 616 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Do you know what these tools are for? 617 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Making bread. 618 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 What the f*** was that? 619 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040 What was that? 620 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,040 We heard that you like to help cook. 621 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,040 Do you know what these tools are for? 622 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Grant and I were in the kitchen investigating reports of a female apparition. 623 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,040 What the f*** was that? 624 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,040 What was that? 625 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,040 What the hell was that? 626 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:43,040 All of a sudden, as we were talking, there was this loud bang from directly behind me. 627 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920 What the heck? 628 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920 We got up quickly and looked all around. 629 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,920 The sound wave was out here, right? 630 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Dude, it wasn't that far away. 631 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,920 I'm just, I'm looking for anything. 632 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,920 It was not that far away. 633 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,920 I thought someone was outside and they had tripped and fallen. 634 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920 So I wanted to get up and look real fast. 635 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,920 I came outside and there was nobody there. 636 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,920 What would even have made that sound so huge? 637 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,920 Wasn't this? 638 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,920 No. 639 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Hold on, let me try something. 640 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Is that it? 641 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,800 I don't think so, man. 642 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,800 And there was no explanation for it. 643 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,800 We tried to find where the sound came from, but to no avail. 644 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,800 Now this hallway right here, Tango, according to them, there's one of the hottest spots in the whole apartment. 645 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Really? 646 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,680 They see full bodied, non-vaporous, completely solid apparitions. 647 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Wow. 648 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Assaults and ADP work. 649 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,680 You want to run that digital recorder? 650 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,680 Yeah. 651 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,680 Is there anybody in here with us? 652 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Anybody that would like to talk to us? 653 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,680 We're here just to learn from you, to try to better understand what you went through. 654 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Steve's knuckles. 655 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,560 What? 656 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,560 They're clothing. 657 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Really? 658 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Well, Tango and I are investigating up in that hallway at one particular time. 659 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,560 I thought I heard what sounded like the movement of clothing. 660 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,440 We've been in this building for some while, but it's still too dark. 661 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440 There are people we haven't seen around. 662 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Maybe it's over the road to our base? 663 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Yes. 664 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,440 Maybe what I heard sounded like the movement of clothing. 665 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:52,840 That's where it's going. 666 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800 So we started to check out the rooms to see if we could find anything that might sound 667 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,000 like clothing rubbing together. 668 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000 We had no luck. 669 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,800 So, you know, that was unfortunate, but maybe we got it on our recorder. 670 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,400 But we have to check that out. 671 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,720 Grant and I just decided we're going to pull Chris Williams aside. 672 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,720 What's up? 673 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Walk with us. 674 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,720 Uh-oh. 675 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,720 Talk with us. 676 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,720 Uh-oh. 677 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,720 I feel like I'm being set up. 678 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,720 What's going on? 679 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,720 You never said you were. 680 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720 Okay, what are you doing? 681 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,640 In TAPS, we have a pretty extensive training period, and we like to really try out our 682 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,120 investigators before we welcome them fully into the group. 683 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,920 I think you've been doing great. 684 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,040 You know, you've definitely come a long way. 685 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,400 And pretty much you've done great for the last year. 686 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,800 I think it's time to step up and be Chris Williams in training and just be Chris Williams, 687 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,280 you know, TAPS member. 688 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,280 Oh, thank you guys. 689 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400 I thought you guys were going to throw me in some evil room. 690 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,400 No, that's the next step. 691 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,400 Oh, okay. 692 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,600 I'm happy that we're actually able to move her up and move her out of training and have 693 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,680 her become a full-fledged investigator. 694 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,520 You know, we knew eight years ago that you would be perfect for the team and here you 695 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,520 are. 696 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520 And of course, you've blown our expectations. 697 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,520 So thank you. 698 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 I've known Jane Grant for so long and Steve and Tango have been absolutely great. 699 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,760 You know, I've had a great time with them up until now and I'm just looking forward 700 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,520 to hopefully a long future with TAPS. 701 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Thank you guys. 702 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,520 All right, let's go. 703 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,520 All right, we go in. 704 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Let's still it. 705 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Go for it, man. 706 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,520 All right. 707 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,020 Earlier, we caught something on the thermal imaging camera in the tunnels and thought 708 00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:26,020 it'd be a good idea to head back in there with Mark. 709 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:27,020 Is anybody here? 710 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:28,020 My name is Grant. 711 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:30,020 This is Mark, Jason. 712 00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:36,020 We can't see you. 713 00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:39,020 We'll hear you. 714 00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:43,020 Is there anybody here with us tonight? 715 00:29:57,020 --> 00:29:59,020 We started hearing some noises. 716 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:01,020 Tell you what, why don't you head down there? 717 00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:02,020 I'll stay over here. 718 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:08,020 We decided we were going to walk down to the other end of the tunnel. 719 00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:09,020 Anybody in here? 720 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:12,020 You just want to talk. 721 00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:15,020 Does anyone need help here? 722 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:19,020 We come here to get to know you, to help you out. 723 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:20,020 Oh, geez. 724 00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:21,020 Did you see that? 725 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,020 Grant just took off somewhere. 726 00:30:24,020 --> 00:30:25,020 What is that? 727 00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:35,020 Oh, geez. 728 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:36,020 Did you see that? 729 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:38,020 Grant just took off somewhere. 730 00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:40,020 Jane, I headed back into the tunnels with Mark. 731 00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:44,020 I saw something down at the end of the tunnel, so I took right off after it. 732 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:45,020 What is that? 733 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:51,020 Hey, what do you know? 734 00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:56,020 I've seen the light fluctuating over there, and then I went down and checked it out. 735 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:58,020 I was just like coming from the window. 736 00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:59,020 You see it? 737 00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:02,020 It's on solid now, but before it was just kind of like throbbing. 738 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:05,020 When we looked around, we really didn't get anything. 739 00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:07,020 At one point Grant thought he had heard something. 740 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:09,020 There was really nothing going on. 741 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:11,020 What do you think of this place, Mark? 742 00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:12,020 This place is great, man. 743 00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:15,020 It's my first time to get to investigate with those guys tonight. 744 00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:17,020 Their reputation is big for themselves. 745 00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:20,020 They really are into their job, and they really try to get to the answer. 746 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:22,020 Honestly, I've enjoyed having you here, man. 747 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:24,020 I'd love to bring you something else. 748 00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:26,020 I enjoyed it. 749 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,020 Great time, man. 750 00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:28,020 Learned a lot. 751 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:30,020 I've really enjoyed having Mark here. 752 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:34,020 He's a very down-to-earth guy, and he's just like one of the crew at home. 753 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:37,020 All right, guys. 754 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:38,020 Pretty late. 755 00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:39,020 I think we've got enough video and audio. 756 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:40,020 Let's wrap it up. 757 00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:46,020 We just finished up the investigation here for Delaware, and we've had a bunch of personal experiences. 758 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:50,020 Grant and I actually saw something in the thermal, which we need to analyze a lot closer. 759 00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:55,020 And while we were in the kitchen area, we had a loud bang that sounded like it was only a few feet behind my head. 760 00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:57,020 It's a really interesting place. 761 00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:58,020 Hey, Lee. 762 00:31:58,020 --> 00:31:59,020 Hey, guys. 763 00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:00,020 So, interesting night. 764 00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:01,020 You're well? 765 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,020 Yeah, we're really well. 766 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:05,020 I think we covered every corner of this place, and we really got a feel for what might be going on here. 767 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:06,020 Well, that's good. 768 00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:09,020 I am really looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with. 769 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:12,020 It's pretty amazing what you guys do and how you do it. 770 00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:13,020 Thanks a lot. 771 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,020 Oh, thanks. 772 00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,020 Thanks for having us, man. 773 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:16,020 We're through the investigation. 774 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:19,020 What I'm looking forward to is getting to the bottom of everything. 775 00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,020 Is Fort Delaware haunted? 776 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,020 And if so, by who? 777 00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:26,020 And it's very difficult not to be excited about what's coming up. 778 00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:29,020 I'd love to have a marketer with us. 779 00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:31,020 He seems to fit right into the team. 780 00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:33,020 He breaks stuff down, and he's just a sponge. 781 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:35,020 He wants to learn it all. 782 00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,020 I would really like to work again with him in the future. 783 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:39,020 I think it's been a wonderful investigation. 784 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:41,020 I've really looked forward to doing this one. 785 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:45,020 And now I just got to go over to the evidence for the next few days and see what turns up. 786 00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:53,020 Hey, guys. 787 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:57,020 Tango and Joe and I are getting ready to review the evidence for Fort Delaware. 788 00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:59,020 Some investigators claim to have some personal experiences, 789 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:02,020 so we need to look for stuff that could back up those experiences. 790 00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:05,020 We need to look for things that the Fort claims is happening, 791 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:07,020 plus anything above and beyond that. 792 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:10,020 Tango, if you want to take a mini-DV, and thermals, Joe, 793 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:12,020 have wireless right there. 794 00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:15,020 And I'll take DVR and digital recorders. 795 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:17,020 Okay, cool. 796 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:25,020 Hey, Steve. 797 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,020 I think I got something here. 798 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:27,020 This is a... 799 00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:30,020 It sounds like a whisper or a low voice in the tunnel area 800 00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:34,020 just by the exit where that guy fell down the stairs and died. 801 00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:35,020 Okay, Joe. 802 00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:36,020 Ready? 803 00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:37,020 Now. 804 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:38,020 Oh, yeah. 805 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:39,020 Wow. 806 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:41,020 What does it sound like it's saying to you? 807 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:42,020 It's obvious to me. 808 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,020 It sounds like it's saying children. 809 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,020 Creepy. 810 00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:45,020 Good deal, Joe. 811 00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:46,020 Yeah, very cool. 812 00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:47,020 Wow, good job. 813 00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:48,020 We have one, maybe, so far. 814 00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:53,020 Steve. 815 00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:58,020 Now, you remember when Jane Grant, they saw that full body thing? 816 00:33:58,020 --> 00:33:59,020 Yeah. 817 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:02,020 They wanted to put the camera, station it around a tripod, 818 00:34:02,020 --> 00:34:04,020 down the hallway to see if anything else comes out. 819 00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:05,020 Okay. 820 00:34:05,020 --> 00:34:06,020 And I'm watching this, and I look down the hallway, 821 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:09,020 and you see this head pop out, pop back in. 822 00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:10,020 Oh, wow. 823 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:11,020 Yeah, so that's weird. 824 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:12,020 I don't have no idea. 825 00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:13,020 Not much. 826 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:16,020 Oh, yeah? 827 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,020 Wow. 828 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:19,020 Jane Grant will be psyched if we have that. 829 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:25,020 Gentlemen. 830 00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:26,020 Hey. 831 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,020 What's going on? 832 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:29,020 So, you tell me Fort Delaware. 833 00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:31,020 We did find some interesting things, 834 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,020 and if you guys are ready, I'll get right into it. 835 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:34,020 Let's do it. 836 00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:35,020 We'll start with some audio. 837 00:34:35,020 --> 00:34:38,020 The first slide you're going to play for you is from the wireless. 838 00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:41,020 If you'll remember, it's set up in the entrance and exit of the fort. 839 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:43,020 To the right, there's the stairway where the guy fell down 840 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:45,020 and cracked himself up. 841 00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:47,020 Exactly, Stefano. 842 00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:50,020 And we got an EVP from this. 843 00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:51,020 Let's listen. 844 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:56,020 Right there, something. 845 00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:59,020 Yeah, it almost sounded like change or keys at first, 846 00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:01,020 and then whatever that was right after. 847 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:04,020 We were thinking we were hearing more of a female voice 848 00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,020 saying the word children. 849 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:06,020 Do it again. 850 00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:10,020 That. 851 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,020 It sounds like something hitting. 852 00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:14,020 I don't think it's anything paranormal. 853 00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:15,020 I don't know. 854 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:17,020 That is tough. 855 00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:19,020 Well, it's definitely a tough one. 856 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:20,020 What else we got? 857 00:35:20,020 --> 00:35:22,020 All right, guys, we have another audio clip here. 858 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:26,020 And in this clip, you'll hear Joe and Chris talking to each other, 859 00:35:26,020 --> 00:35:29,020 laughing, and you'll hear a voice sort of come up under it 860 00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:31,020 and murmur some things. 861 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:35,020 Can you just put it in the headphones? 862 00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:36,020 It's really low. 863 00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:37,020 It's pretty long, too. 864 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:38,020 Yeah, yeah. 865 00:35:38,020 --> 00:35:40,020 That one's a low, low murmur. 866 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:45,020 It's something saying, you can make out a word, respect. 867 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:47,020 Show some respect. 868 00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:50,020 Yeah, show some respect. 869 00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:52,020 It sounds like really low. 870 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:53,020 So that was in the mess hall. 871 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:57,020 And then in the kitchen, we got that loud bang that happened, 872 00:35:57,020 --> 00:35:59,020 and we were able to catch that audio, right? 873 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,020 We can go into that right now. 874 00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:01,020 Sweet. 875 00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:04,020 Oh, sh**. 876 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,020 Wow, you can see it move. 877 00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:10,020 Hey, let's say it didn't pull a dude run. 878 00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,020 That's awesome. 879 00:36:11,020 --> 00:36:12,020 Anybody would have done that. 880 00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:14,020 It's just funny to see it. 881 00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:16,020 You can definitely hear that, guys. 882 00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:18,020 And you heard it out in the courtyard. 883 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:19,020 Yeah, Mark and I were out in the courtyard. 884 00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:21,020 We heard it, and we ran over there because it was really loud. 885 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:23,020 You could hear it all over the place. 886 00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:24,020 Extremely loud. 887 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:26,020 Now, guys, when that happened, I was listening in, 888 00:36:26,020 --> 00:36:29,020 and you actually hear the word kitchen. 889 00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,020 You can actually hear it here. 890 00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:32,020 It sounds like a woman saying kitchen, 891 00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:34,020 like right before the bang happens. 892 00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:35,020 We have that? 893 00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:36,020 Yeah, we do, actually. 894 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,020 It says something, kitchen. 895 00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:40,020 Yeah, it's a female's voice. 896 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:41,020 Here, right. 897 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:46,020 Kitchen. 898 00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:48,020 Well, you can definitely make out kitchen. 899 00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:49,020 It does sound like a woman. 900 00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:52,020 So we have a bang and a voice to accompany it. 901 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:53,020 Yeah. 902 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:55,020 Guys, one thing we have here is the thermal 903 00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:57,020 where you guys had seen that anomaly, 904 00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:58,020 and I'll play that sighting for you. 905 00:36:58,020 --> 00:37:01,020 But let me show you what there it is. 906 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:02,020 Yeah. 907 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:03,020 Look at that. 908 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,020 Boom, it takes back off. 909 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:05,020 Right. 910 00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:06,020 Did we catch anything else throughout the night? 911 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:08,020 Well, you guys put the thermal down stationary, 912 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:09,020 which was a great idea. 913 00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:10,020 We put it on the tripod, yeah. 914 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,020 And I'd like to show you now what we caught. 915 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,020 The bullseye's basically almost right on the crosshairs. 916 00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:16,020 I'll take this. 917 00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:17,020 Whoa. 918 00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:18,020 Whoa. 919 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,020 It's a head and shoulder. 920 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:21,020 Hey, Lee. 921 00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,020 Good to see you. 922 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,020 How you been? 923 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:24,020 All right. 924 00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:25,020 All right, yeah. 925 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,020 Well, you know what we did. 926 00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:28,020 We came in, we listened to the claims of activity. 927 00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:30,020 You took us for a tour around the entire building, 928 00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:31,020 and you showed us the hotspot. 929 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,020 Of course you know how we work. 930 00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:36,020 We try to capture any activity at the same time 931 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,020 we tried to debunk. 932 00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:39,020 And honestly, the stories you gave us, 933 00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:42,020 you know, a figure that comes out and lifts the lid off a pot 934 00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:43,020 and stirs the soup. 935 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,020 You can't mistake that. 936 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:46,020 The soup is the soup that we're making. 937 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:48,020 And we're making sure that we're not going to get 938 00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:49,020 the soup. 939 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,020 You can't mistake that. 940 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:51,020 There's something happening there. 941 00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,020 Right. 942 00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,020 And I hate to say that, you know, the witness there had 943 00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:56,020 something wrong in the head because, you know... 944 00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:57,020 She's your wife. 945 00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:58,020 She's your wife. 946 00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:00,020 That would be a bad thing. 947 00:38:00,020 --> 00:38:02,020 We didn't want to overlook any possibility here. 948 00:38:02,020 --> 00:38:04,020 We had some of our investigators in the courtyard 949 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,020 taking pictures of each other, acting like they were tourists 950 00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:09,020 in hopes to catch some of these phantom soldiers. 951 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:12,020 But we ended up not really being able to capture anything. 952 00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:15,020 So it turned out to be an interesting night of investigating. 953 00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:18,020 A bunch of people did have some personal experiences. 954 00:38:18,020 --> 00:38:21,020 They ranged from everything from seeing things, hearing things, 955 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:26,020 voices, laughter, and asking for interaction and getting it. 956 00:38:26,020 --> 00:38:28,020 So I think we're wasting our time talking. 957 00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:30,020 I think we should just let the evidence... 958 00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:31,020 I'd be very interested in seeing that. 959 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:34,020 Now, this first clip that we're going to play for you 960 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:36,020 was while Grant and I were sitting in the kitchen. 961 00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:39,020 It's very faint, so you got to listen close. 962 00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:42,020 Can we do it one more time? 963 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:44,020 Yeah, I'll loop it for you. 964 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:47,020 It's right there. 965 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:49,020 Yeah, just real faint in the background. 966 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:52,020 It almost sounds like it's saying something that it says kitchen. 967 00:38:54,020 --> 00:38:57,020 And then about 10 seconds after that... 968 00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:01,020 Probably about, I'd say, maybe 7 feet, 7, 10 feet behind Jason 969 00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:02,020 outside the door. 970 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:05,020 There was a massive bang, and everybody who was at the fort that night heard it. 971 00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:07,020 And I'll play it for you right now. 972 00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:11,020 That's huge. 973 00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:14,020 Nobody can point to anything where it came from. 974 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:16,020 We can point to the area. 975 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:20,020 It was that area right between the officer's kitchen and the mess hall. 976 00:39:20,020 --> 00:39:26,020 And honestly, it was so loud, we couldn't figure out what the heck could have done that. 977 00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:29,020 Here's the same sound caught by a different team in the courtyard. 978 00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:31,020 That might be that, yeah. 979 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:34,020 What the hell was that? 980 00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:37,020 I have to tell you what that sounds like. 981 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:40,020 It really sounds like a cannon fire. 982 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:46,020 We did it a few years ago just to try it, and it sounded just like that. 983 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:47,020 Yeah, exactly. 984 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,020 And there were cannons right outside that kitchen. 985 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:53,020 Oh yeah, I can understand what you're saying with the cannon fire. 986 00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:57,020 The only way that would be possible is if it was a residual type sound. 987 00:39:57,020 --> 00:40:01,020 I just can't imagine what could cause that kind of sound. 988 00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:07,020 Later on, Chris Williams and Joe Chin, two of our investigators, were in the mess hall area. 989 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:11,020 And there appeared to be another voice that showed up. 990 00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:14,020 Now, let me just highlight that area and play it for you. 991 00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:19,020 Can you make out any of the words? 992 00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:20,020 Not yet. 993 00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:21,020 I can definitely hear the voice. 994 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:22,020 I'll loop it for you. 995 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:23,020 Okay, good. 996 00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,020 I'm hearing some respect really quickly. 997 00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:32,020 It almost sounds like show some respect around you. 998 00:40:32,020 --> 00:40:34,020 There's a lot of respect around you. 999 00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:37,020 Those were two interesting things that we were able to catch audio-wise. 1000 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:43,020 Now, Grant and I were walking through the tunnels, and we had a quick experience. 1001 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,020 So as you can see here, this is what the thermal imaging camera looks like. 1002 00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:50,020 We're in the main hallway that opens up to all the rest of the tunnels. 1003 00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:55,020 Now we saw something at the end of the tunnel, and it happened briefly because we were trying to look up. 1004 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:59,020 We didn't really think much of it until we rewound the tape. 1005 00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:01,020 Just keep an eye at the end of that tunnel. 1006 00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:08,020 There's a form there. Is there a question about that? 1007 00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:13,020 My first thing was I wanted to know if there was a TAPS member actually down at the end of the tunnel. 1008 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:17,020 Everybody was accounted for, and really not sure what that was. 1009 00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:22,020 So we decided after we did a walkthrough, we checked the entire building looking for someone. 1010 00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:27,020 That we were going to set the thermal camera all the way up at the end and just let it run. 1011 00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:28,020 Okay. 1012 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,020 Watch right in that target. 1013 00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:35,020 Yeah, there's a quick looking out. 1014 00:41:35,020 --> 00:41:37,020 The thing is we had a very controlled environment. 1015 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:39,020 You can't just walk into this place. 1016 00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,020 Well, being on an island, it's tough to get people over without anybody knowing it. I can see that. 1017 00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:47,020 And it's very easy to keep track of who was where because everyone was investigating other places. 1018 00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:50,020 And with that, when cameraman, soundman, they were accounted for. 1019 00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:52,020 That last scene was pretty impressive for me. 1020 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:56,020 I don't think I've ever seen anything that approaches anything like that. 1021 00:41:56,020 --> 00:42:00,020 As far as part evidence is concerned for something like this. 1022 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:05,020 Honestly, with everything we caught, there definitely does seem to be stuff going on out at Fort Delaware. 1023 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:11,020 I think that you've got at least two distinct pockets of activity over by the kitchen area and in the tunnels. 1024 00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:18,020 So, guys, I got to ask you the question straight up because there's a lot of people who want to know is Fort Delaware on it? 1025 00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:21,020 I would feel comfortable saying that the place appears to be haunted. 1026 00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:24,020 Our goal is to shoot down stuff, and we couldn't. 1027 00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:26,020 And so I got to say, yeah, it's haunted. 1028 00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:31,020 I would love to spend more time really trying to gather as much evidence as I can. 1029 00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:33,020 We'd love to have you back just anytime. 1030 00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,020 Thanks for having us out, Lee. 1031 00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:36,020 Thanks very much. It was great. 1032 00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,020 An amazing, amazing experience. 1033 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,020 It's a real pleasure. Thanks, guys. 1034 00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:43,020 Okay. I like the way tabs operates in that there's redundancy. 1035 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:45,020 If they see something, they don't believe it on the first shot. 1036 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:48,020 It's not gospel thing until they prove it out. 1037 00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:53,020 And they really went to some pretty extraordinary measures to prove out that something really happened. 1038 00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:58,020 And thermal image in particular was the most striking thing I think I've ever seen. 1039 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:04,020 For somebody who lives and dies by research and by provable fact, that was open and shut for me. 1040 00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:06,020 That's a great approach. 1041 00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:08,020 Man, that revealed to Lee went awesome. 1042 00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:10,020 The way he took it was amazing. 1043 00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:12,020 I mean, Lee is a pretty hardcore historian. 1044 00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:15,020 I mean, he really embraces it and he wants nothing but the truth. 1045 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:19,020 And I'm just glad that we can give him some solid evidence. 1046 00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:21,020 He has people in the public that want to know. 1047 00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:27,020 Exactly. And I think my only concern is will Lee now spend any time there after 6 p.m. 1048 00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:30,020 or will he make sure he's out of there long before the sun goes down? 1049 00:43:30,020 --> 00:43:31,020 Well, good job, man. 1050 00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:32,020 Great case. 1051 00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,020 Hex on to the next.